Comments on: A Covenantal View of Atonement http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/ Just another Marketing WordPress Legion site Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:32:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Who Is Jesus Christ? - Christianity - Page 2 - City-Data Forum http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Who Is Jesus Christ? - Christianity - Page 2 - City-Data Forum Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:25:54 +0000 http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/#comment-19 [...] Wasn't it Paul who came up with the atonement theory to explain why Jesus had to die? A Covenantal View of Atonement | The Paul Page Your post is displaying general ignorance towards the entire Bible. Almost the entire Bible is [...] [...] Wasn't it Paul who came up with the atonement theory to explain why Jesus had to die? A Covenantal View of Atonement | The Paul Page Your post is displaying general ignorance towards the entire Bible. Almost the entire Bible is [...]

]]> By: Jason McNutt http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Jason McNutt Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:46:14 +0000 http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/#comment-18 I agree with the idea of Christ being a mediator of the New Covenant but it does not come at the expense of substitution. This is not a western invention but clearly outlined in the OT. Moses was a mediator of the convenant but there was also specific sacrifices that were needed as atonement for sin. These sacrifices acted as substitutions which the author of Hebrews puts to Christ. It seems much of this NPP debate has both sides throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I agree with the idea of Christ being a mediator of the New Covenant but it does not come at the expense of substitution. This is not a western invention but clearly outlined in the OT. Moses was a mediator of the convenant but there was also specific sacrifices that were needed as atonement for sin. These sacrifices acted as substitutions which the author of Hebrews puts to Christ.

It seems much of this NPP debate has both sides throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

]]> By: Revd Dr Andrew Tempelman http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Revd Dr Andrew Tempelman Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:04:59 +0000 http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/#comment-17 Start with the idea that the only justice is mercy, kindness, and you have your solution. And God never demands his son's death in Jesus descriptions of him, eg, Mt 5-6 and Lk 6, and certainly not in the Prodigal Son story or the Evil Vineyardmen. The latter is the real story of the Crucifixion, that gov't domination is what kills Christ and all Kindness that he taught and embodied. And that god hated, abhored the death of his son, he in no way planned it, or wanted it. Yet no one cries out that the Cross is a dread Warning against human domination trying to overcome divine Kindness. Not even after Hitler and Stalin killed their 50 million each, does the moribund church come up with the solution--find a local, Christ-based community solution to all 'great' national gov'ts and let Kindness rise in the earth. Until we see what we need, we'll never reach for it. Christ showed us all we need. Take another look, and be sure to tell all the people. -- ADT Start with the idea that the only justice is mercy, kindness, and you have your solution. And God never demands his son’s death in Jesus descriptions of him, eg, Mt 5-6 and Lk 6, and certainly not in the Prodigal Son story or the Evil Vineyardmen. The latter is the real story of the Crucifixion, that gov’t domination is what kills Christ and all Kindness that he taught and embodied. And that god hated, abhored the death of his son, he in no way planned it, or wanted it. Yet no one cries out that the Cross is a dread Warning against human domination trying to overcome divine Kindness. Not even after Hitler and Stalin killed their 50 million each, does the moribund church come up with the solution–find a local, Christ-based community solution to all ‘great’ national gov’ts and let Kindness rise in the earth. Until we see what we need, we’ll never reach for it. Christ showed us all we need. Take another look, and be sure to tell all the people. — ADT

]]> By: Michelle http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Michelle Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:08:27 +0000 http://www.thepaulpage.com/a-covenantal-view-of-atonement/#comment-16 Thank you for this post! I have finally found an explanation that puts it all together for me. God is the God that never changes and is always faithful! Justice, love and grace are all the same thing. I would love more information on this. Thank you for this post! I have finally found an explanation that puts it all together for me. God is the God that never changes and is always faithful! Justice, love and grace are all the same thing. I would love more information on this.

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